4. DISCUSS: Teaching and Learning...

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Reflect on one of the following questions:

  • Consider the planned programs that you have done in the last year.  What were they?  Who came?  Which instructional activities were a good match for your outcomes and why?
  • How might knowing a previous strategy help you move your program closer to your outcomes?
  • What could you do to better understand your audience to motivate their learning?
  • What learning strategies might you add to your programs and activities to help your learners to be engaged, learn, and want to come back?

(Post a response and respond to two colleagues...)

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by Rexx-Javier Isley -
I'm sort of "fudging" the response here, but I definitely think it applies to the topic.

I'm bringing back an AARP Driver Safety Course, which is available to the general public, but intended specifically for aging drivers, and their caretakers.
The last time this class was offered by our CCE was in April 2020...which was obviously cancelled, and people have been clamoring for it to return ever since.
COVID restrictions at different points (our own CCE, County level, and even AARP's own standards) changed and were in conflict so many times, it just wasn't logistically practical to attempt this until I came on as Transportation Educator, and AARP had trained a new person to offer the course.

I was working as an "Essential Worker" in a Grocery Store for several years prior to CCE, so I have a LOT of experience in these conversations, and changed the course language accordingly.
"This is an in-person event, so please monitor your own health needs and be mindful of other participants and staff joining us. (We will be offering this course again, so anyone needing to reschedule will be prioritized for a future offering). Masks will be available at the door."

This audience in particular wants these in-person, not virtual (and I can't blame them), so we decided to try a single-day, 6-hour course instead of splitting it across two days to hopefully make it more accessible to many. The instructor is willing to go back to a two-day format, but we figured trying it on a weekend was a good initial attempt! I looked up local activities (students are back, Streets Alive!, Apple Harvest Festival, PorchFest), and picked the least-busy weekend of in the month.
It's not that any of those events in particular would be in direct conflict in terms of participants, but they might shy away those who are already leery of crowds and traffic.

All that is to say, we're taking the parts that made sense from the way we did it before, adjusting a few pieces to minimize number of courses and need to travel, and being mindful of the time of year, weather, and audience needs to cast the widest net.
(I'm also doing registration through my office number as well, when I typically prioritize web and email services - it's what the audience wants!)
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by Melissa Spoon -
RJ,
I think it is great to think about different ways to reach people. Amazing job thinking about what is going on in the community so you can better help. It reminded me of the fact that my parents love the State Fair, but they do not like to drive in traffic. It limits the events they go to because of those. Thinking about them makes me really thing for my programs making them in locations that are easy for people to get to and even making sure they are handicap assessable when the audience needs it. Thanks for sharing. Good luck with your events.
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by Celeste Carmichael -
Great job considering your audience and their needs! This is a really good example of designing for your audience - and hard to believe that this course has not been offered in Ithaca - I bet there will be many interested (particularly because it can reduce costs for car insurance). Thank you for sharing RJ!
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by Mallory Illsley -
RJ, that is a great example of knowing your audience and thinking about their habits and needs. Identifying that the older generation is more comfortable with in person interaction than online is definitely going to help you increase your participation numbers. Also, along with taking into consideration, that heavy traffic and crowds may deter many older folks from attending is also so important in terms of you being able to reach your audience.
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by Meghan Kerr -
RJ, I love the language you used here to make people feel more comfortable about attending (or not) attending a program during covid. I might borrow it things get rough again. I also like your ideas on casting a wide net and considerations around accessibility. Weather is something I don't think of enough and I should. I'm going to have to keep it in my mind as we move into the colder months.
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by Christina Nadolne -
I think it is important to know your audience and you seemed to have a good grasp on covering bases for the intended audience.
In doing some virtual programs, I find that people can be more engaged in person, if with the right lessons and audience.
Great job overall adapting! And thank you for working in the grocery store during COVID!
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by Harrison Tobi -
Hi RJ,

I recently had to help plan and moderate the aquaculture portion of CCE's Ag Forum at the beginning of January, 2024. We had a few months prior to discuss the format (i.e. virtual, in-person, or a hybrid approach). 2022 was completey virtual, 2023 was a hybrid, and 2024 was completely in person. The forum was virtual in 2022 because of Covid, 2023 was a hybrid becuase of potential Covid concerns and 2024 was in-person. While I understand and appreciate the virtual approach to be careful, I do think attendance was lower and participation from the audience was definitely lower. The hybrid version in 2023 worked well, but it was hard for some viewers to hear in-person speakers via Zoom, and vice-versa. Due to a overlapping aquaculture conference on the same day as the Ag Forum in 2024, attendance was very low for the aquaculture portion at the Ag Forum. Because of the conflicting conference, I am not sure if attendance was low due to Covid concerns or because people were frustrated after the hybrid and virtual conferences in years prior. However, prior to the deciding on the format of the conference, CCE had a meeting to review feedback from previous attendees, and in-person was the most preferred. I think a lot of people prefer the social aspect of having conferences in person. That being said, with Covid still being a concern to a lot of people, hybrid may be the most accommodating. A caveat to the hybrid style is cost versus benefit. To do hybrid, conferences often need to spend additional money for the IT side of things, so it must be considered if the money spent to hybridize a conference will payoff through virtual attendees. It would have been interesting to assess all three methods (virtual, hybrid, in-person) on attendance to the aquaculture portion. Hopefully we get some feedback again to inform us what style we should use in 2025.
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by Melissa Spoon -
Since I am new, I do not have a program previously in Extension, but I did start up a Teen Resiliency Program at my last job. It was a program that we developed with 12 lessons that we tailored to the needs of our students. We taught lessons on Body Image, Goal setting, Knowing your strengths, and a few others. We had a really good turn out. We two events where we the first time did 4 lessons in one day with a lunch provided between lessons. The second session we did after school for 4 days in a row. We also had parents come and learn about what they kids were learning so they could enforce the lessons at home. We got really good feedback and made adjustments with that feedback.
Feedback is one thing that is very important when it comes to making a program and really discovering the needs of what people want. People will not sign-up for what they are interested in. When it comes to learning strategies, it's important to know your audience and teach to their learning level as well as what they want to know. Always trying to improve your program and make it better will be a key to success. In the past I have run into many who do not like change and feel like since they did it that way for years there is no reason to change it. Change is good, embrace it and get better!
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by Celeste Carmichael -
While you didn't say here, I would imagine that you considered a few things about the kiddos in your teen resiliency programs - were breaks included, did they have a chance to do things hands-on, were there social opportunities for them to work with each other, was there food or snacks, what did the room look and feel like? I bet you are thinking - "well, yeah" :), but truth is that sometimes staff don't consider all of that...and the audience may not return (unless they have to LOL). Some might describe the ambiance as not part of the program - but it I think it is one of the most critical parts. Like I said, I'm sure this is a given, I'm just adding because it is worth talking about :).
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by Rexx-Javier Isley -
This is definitely something I take into a lot more consideration since joining CCE!
There are so many pieces of the process that I just "do" on almost auto-pilot, when it's so much more helpful to explain to my team, other people in a program, and so forth what exactly my strategy is, and why.

I'll give an example: When a colleague is running a program with partner organizations, I typically run "support". I know that the person "in charge" of the event is going to be contacted for every last detail, so I try to engage with other participants and let them know to find me if they need anything.
This way, a member of CCE staff (me) can interact with someone from each organization, and give them a point of contact.
It's much easier to look for a few extra chairs and a spare tablecloth in one fell swoop than to have to put out a million little fires because 17 different organizations have entirely different asks.
(Again, everything from whether or not there's food to how the chairs are arranged can have an impact, and sometimes we don't even think about these things - or assume everyone does it our way!)
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by Mallory Illsley -
Melissa, that sounds like a great program that is important for kids to have in their lives. I agree with you that feedback is very important. Without the feedback you may not know what needs to change and how you can better reach your audience. It is tough when you run into a challenge where someone running a program does not see that they need to or want to make any changes. That is so great that you have the mindset to listen to feedback and adapt program components if need be!
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by Christina Nadolne -
Teen Resiliency seems like a much-needed topic. Looking at the schedules to accommodate parents and teens was a great approach to aiding to the success of the program.
Feedback is important as sometimes we learn something we have never considered.
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by Joshua Perry -
I totally agree with you that change is good! Especially if it improves the program you're trying to implement. I've ran into the same wall of it's the way it's always been done more often than not and it gets sometimes frustrating because there could be other ways that could make the great work already being done better. Plus when you change things you sometimes will learn something that you would of never considered before that change.
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by Mallory Illsley -
I am new to my program but have had many summer lessons which gave me the opportunity to practice old lessons and develop them into my own. The old lesson plans that I have access to are vague with a quick description of the lesson plan and lists 2-3 objectives. This was a good start but doesn't really allow a smooth transition for a new educator because it lacks dept and leaves questions on how the lesson was carried out, what topics did they incorporate and the flow of the lesson from start to finish. During the summer I have been familiarizing myself with the lessons, and the materials I have in the office to see what matches with what lessons or if there's overlap. I have been focused on developing context for future educators or so that anyone could understand the lesson plan and carry out a successful program with a smooth transition. I've also been developing variations of the same lessons based on audience, for example elementary, middle school, and high schools - need to follow simple to more advanced content. I am also trying to incorporate audio, visual, and create a hands-on experience for my lessons. Many of the high school lessons are just power point presentations in a lecture style format. I want to create an interactive aspect to those lessons to have students stay engaged. Maybe this would include a video or leaving time to do a hands-on activity just as I do with the younger kids? I feel like sometimes we forget that just because kids are older doesn't mean they won't enjoy a fun game. Even as adults we do ice breaker games that get us moving around the room for a break. I'm just not sure what these interactive parts will look like yet for the middle school and high school ages.
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by Meghan Kerr -
Hi Mallory, I was in a teaching program for a while and I agree with you that good lesson plan usually do have very explicit instructions for how it should be taught. I have read lessons that include the exact questions the teacher is to ask and the responses based on what the kids say. It will be nice to the next person since you are writing more detailed plans for them. I think hands-on is the way to go too. I'm the type of person who remembers things more when I'm doing something rather than watching or listening. I think most people are similar (adults and kids)
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by Meghan Kerr -
I am also new to CCE. I can't speak to programs that I have organized, but I did look back through documents detailing past programs organized by people in my position. There have been a lot of interesting an engaging programs over the years. I am focusing specifically on those with youth. One program that stuck out was a youth gardening program they did at the local environmental education center. It got me thinking about partnering with other organizations and the associated benefits of this practice. The center is well attended and I think they had a lot of children participate, more than it looks like came to most of the programs held here. I'm guessing this has a lot to do with the location the fact they were able to reach more interested families due to the connection to the education center. It seems like it was even more successful in the second year. I think there was some staff turnover and the program stopped due to that. I think it is important to consider the increased participation that came with the partnership. In terms of outcomes, I think it was successful in meeting many of the program goals I've identified through my research. Using hands-on activities and making the sessions fun would be the biggest motivator the participants (youth) and would also increase. I think the evaluation piece from previous programs would be really important her too.
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by Vicki Fleming -
Love this! And welcome! We operate out of an educational farm and I was just sharing with someone that our ability to offer so many different programs brings in so many different people who are constantly saying we didn't know you even existed. And we have many partnership organizations as well. It is especially helpful in our world of social media were you can cross post. I wonder if the success of the program could be brought back to your office? You participated in this program, you might like. . .You harvested this from the garden--would you like to do a cooking class with us (even virtually).

Vicki
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by Christina Nadolne -
My biggest program from the last year is Fruit and Veggie Rx program. It is modeled after other Produce prescription programs, adapted to our target populations.
We have used already tested EFNEP nutrition education programming and adapted to the diabetes population. We also spoke with other organizations that have a similar program to understand better the challenges, and successes.
At first, we did a basic power point presentation. We found that our participants were not only eager to learn, but also eager to have support, so we adapted to more open forum, allowing some conversation during the lessons. We also added a food tasting to our lessons, and a food demonstration. The participants were very eager to continue.
The biggest draw was a voucher that reinforces the lesson.
We asked questions along the way to understand what our target audience would be more drawn to. This allowed for adaptation during the program, which make a more successful program to continue.
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by Vicki Fleming -
I love that you adapted to have a combination of styles. The powerpoint for visual learners with open time for questions, food tasting and a food demonstration. Did they also get to do some of the prep? What's better than eating while at a program and then getting a reward to eat more? I really love the idea of the self reporting and the journaling--I wonder if a cute veggie notepad would be fun too.
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by Ryan Kincaid -
I like how you've been adapting it over time as you've seen certain needs and interests. On a side note, there's a Fruit & Veggie Rx program in Wayne County that seems to be going well - I'm sure the staff here would be happy to chat if you ever want to troubleshoot or brainstorm ideas. :)
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by BRITTANY NAUMANN -
I love all the different learning styles that this hits on - also food! What better motivator than food!
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by Vicki Fleming -
Reflecting on a program we developed during COVID. It was an extension to our public presentation program, an effort to engage teens (who we often lose) and a spark for a potential program that could be done on a larger level and bring in revenue. It was called BOSS and we basically helped youth conceptualize and create a business plan, come up with a budget and then do an elevator pitch to our "bosses." We had 5 teens participate.

Instructional activities: virtual "lectures" and guest speakers and then practical handouts with assignments. We "designed" it on the fly and our Finance Director was one of the key presenters. Some of the financial material went over the youth's heads. Our guest speakers were of varying success. Outcomes were amazing despite our pilot program snafus. I believe the youth were encouraged to participate because their parents were their 4-H leaders.

Improving the program:
Creating a structured interactive version of all the activities vs. lectures
Getting feedback from the youth
Supporting our facilitators with more training on working with this age group
Creating a way to guide our speakers so there is more time for feedback and interaction
I love the idea of self reporting too--we did have some "assignments" for them that included a dream board but even more time for reflection would have been helpful
We had a final presentation and offered awards. That was met positively and provided motivation but I do think that parental support was the key factor in the program making it to the end.
We really want to move this to an in-person program. We also spent 6 hours doing this training, so making it meaningful in a digestible way--plenty of stretch breaks.
Combination of watching videos (ie elevator pitches), interactive activities, and reading and/or drawing so that all learners can find success.
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by Ryan Kincaid -
I appreciate the idea of getting feedback from the youth; what do they think would have made it better/what would they have liked to see. I have thought about doing an young entrepreneurs club or something relating to starting a business, so your insights are helpful to inform my thinking on that. :)
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by Rexx-Javier Isley -
I love that this BOSS program you created also helps youth understand that some skills are really valuable in life broadly, as well as in a specific academic or business context. Being able to give a good elevator pitch, leading a compelling activity, and engaging with different audiences are all incredibly valuable skills that aren't always taught in a classroom or through on-the-job training.
I'm very into highlighting strengths that might not always fit neatly into academic boxes, but make for great future leaders and creators!
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by Ryan Kincaid -
How might knowing a previous strategy help you move your program closer to your outcomes?

Knowing what's been done in the past can inform your decisions for the future. If something has been tried, but was ineffective, you might not want to do that same thing because it "doesn't work" - or maybe you do, because the situation, audience, or some other factor has changed. Or, perhaps you want to change the method of delivery or some other approach you are taking. In some instances, a one-day workshop may be effective in accomplishing your goals; in other cases, a multi-day, or multi-week series is needed to make more significant change or more lasting learning/deeper understanding.
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by BRITTANY NAUMANN -
That's a great point, Ryan. Different programs with different goals will require different timing. Sometimes it can be challenging with 4-H and the amount of contact hours needed to be considered a program. While every program we do has 4-H at it's core and positive youth development at the forefront, some programs we offer don't count as "4-H" because the goals/outcomes can be achieved in a 1 or 2 hour program. Others absolutely might need multi-day or multi-week sessions.
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by Linda Altenburger -
Totally agree with revising programs based on past successes (didn't want to say "failures" but those too). That is why it is always good to reach out to other regions who have implemented same/similar programs to uncover what challenges they faced, how they overcame them (if they did), and structure your particular program based off of this valuable feedback. Of course, you may still need to change specific aspects (delivery methods, program site, etc.) based on demographic differences, individual needs of the population, etc. ). Such value in reading others forum posts. Thank you for sharing your ideas and successes here.
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by BRITTANY NAUMANN -
Consider the planned programs that you have done in the last year. What were they? Who came? Which instructional activities were a good match for your outcomes and why?

My favorite and most challenging part of my job is running our summer camp program. Summer camp is unique because we have youth of varying ages, abilities, and interests for many hours. It always surprises me which activities are going to be the best received and it's a great opportunity to pilot programs or test out changes in existing programs and get feedback. In the camp program, we were able to test out a program we've been trying to launch for schools and libraries - Amphibians and Beyond. The program itself was very well thought out. Different hands on activities with critters, a game, additional materials to read, discussion points, etc. The kids loved the program, but we learned, very quickly, the transportation of the critters needed to be better thought out. It just goes to show that we can put so much thought and planning into the program goals, teaching methods and engaging the youth but there's always more planning and improving that can happen (like how to transport an axolotl without spilling water everywhere ;)). We have since worked out some of the issues and hope to pilot in schools and libraries with our other programs in 2024 to youth in K-6th grades.
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by Joshua Perry -
The summer camp program is such a fantastic program that CCE offers. Amazing job keeping that running and going!!! I always found it kind of funny that even with all the planning in the world there's always seems to be something unexpected popping up. I thought it was really thoughtful to tackle some of the issues you were running into especially with the program running so well.
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by Joshua Perry -
• What could you do to better understand your audience to motivate their learning?
So I haven’t had the opportunity yet to really run a defined program but I can relate to this with some of the hatchery work I do. Part of my job is to educate the public as well as various groups of all ages. I find it sometimes difficult while giving tours to younger audiences relating the material to them. With adults it’s much easier to talk to them about all of our processes because there is a sense of curiosity present coming into the hatchery. With younger people hatchery work may be of little interest to them. In that same breath the material during the tour I feel can sometimes go over their head. To get around this whenever I have a tour with a younger audience it really helps to coordinate with the educator or chaperone tying in the hatchery work to what they are learning currently. It seems to somewhat work…….sometimes but implementing strategies such as surveys could aid in making that aspect easier and more productive. In addition to that adding components that facilitate interaction throughout the tour could be beneficial. This could be something as simple as holding an oyster.
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by Celeste Carmichael -

These are great reflections Josh.  I think the more we can consider how to make what we have to share relevant to our audiences, the better - so talking to teachers/leaders or giving something to do, hold...sense in some way...makes so much sense.  

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by Harrison Tobi -
Hi Josh,

I know your production hatchery tours are bit more of a production (pun slightly intended) than when I give tours at the lab. However, I totally agree with what you are saying in regards to different age groups and having ways for the tour to be interactive. I have now opted to have aquaculture gear, SCUBA gear, and live bay scallops to be part of the tours I give at the lab now. People love holding the scallops, kids and adults alike, and I find that people really like being able to pick up and look at the aquaculture gear we use. I think having an interactive compenent where people can hold oysters would definitely help with the kids. Kids love touch tanks and the like, so I think that's a great idea. In regards to the surveys with groups of kids, maybe you could have the teacher/chaperone hand out a brief questionaire to their group with questions such as: How do you think shellfish impact the ocean? How does the ocean impact your life and how do shellfish play a role in that? What does environmental restoration mean to you? etc... I know these are broad questions, and maybe not even relavant, but getting a baseline metric of where groups are at (more specifically, younger aged groups) could really help you and your team make small adjustments to your tours.
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by Matthew Sclafani -
The horseshoe crab monitoring program site coordinator training workshop that we host annually was very well attended this year, which was good to see after COVID-19 had greatly affected how we could run the programs in the past. We had pivoted to online learning at that time, but it just isn't the same when it came to teaching and reviewing protocols for the citizen scientists. Since we had such a good turnout again, it was decided that we'd spruce things up a bit, including new powerpoint slides, more interesting facts about the program and what they are implementing and also try to be a bit more interactive with the audience. The fresh materials and approach seemed to be well received by the audience and we received positive feedback from the attendees. So, we have a new baseline to work off of and move forward with over time. Programs constantly change and evolve, so to keep a program running for over 15 years requires an open mind to change and adaptation; including learning strategies and understanding what your audience will be motivated by.
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by Linda Altenburger -
What is important to always keep in mind when teaching is awareness of the various learning styles. As educators we know that each student has a different learning style and the more engaged/invested a participant is in learning , the more likely to take away knowledge and skills. While is it important to be aware of different learning styles ( visual, auditory or kinesthetic learners, etc), the best teachers adjust and cater to each student's strengths to insure both the desire and ability to learn.
Quite a number of years ago, I took a class where we were required to take a learning type "quiz" and then plot the outcome on a grid. I found the results very interesting and it really clicked for me how very differently people learn and why and ultimately how to make modifications in the classroom setting. It helped me to better handle and address learning disabilities in my own home.